Kindly mind your manners Abd Rahman.

Being cynical and/or sarcastic is not a pleasant behavior.

SN

Perhaps, my disagreement with you will give you more vigor in your opinions, and if that is the case, and so be it.

I am here to “win” this discussion.

I am going to leave this forum by saying we can just agree to disagree.

Peace and much love.

SN

What do you mean by the “how portion of your question”. You still have not answered my question. Is not the fact that Khilafah is an obligation in the Shairah enough of a reason for us to work for its restoration?

If we can agree on this then how can we support so called “scholars” like Tahir Anwar who want to make us content living in a world of kufr and not work for the return of Islam? They want us to support the kufr leaders who are killing our brothers and preventing the return of this Din.

It would be well worth your time my brother SN to listen to the series on the life of Abu Bakr (ra) by Imam Anwar Al-Awlaiki (now there is a true scholar who is not afraid to speak the truth and who is not a puppet and bootlicker of the kafir).

In this series among other things Imam Awlaki (ra) explains the Khilafah and what a time of prosperity and goodness it was. Insha Allah it is here on this website.

Brother you are still not coming to the basic question that I am posing to you. When Allah (swt) makes something as an obligation then is not a duty upon us to carry it out? It is as simple as that. Can you please answer that question for me? Do we not have an obligation to be obedient to our Creator and Sustainer? Is not the fact that Khilafah is an obligation enough of a reason for us to work for it.

You say that we do not need a revolution. Does it not bother you that today despite all of our advancements in technology 25,000 people die every day only from hunger. They die while in other parts of the world food is wasted by the tons. Does it not bother you that most of the people in the world today live at or below the poverty line? Does it not bother you all the people who are dying and suffering from wars and preventable and treatable diseases?

Moreover does it not bother that so many people are not worshiping Allah (swt). How many people today live in heedlessness of Him and they do not prostrate before Him? How can you love Him and be content in such a world? Yes the enviornment is a problem but these are bigger problems.

The Khilafah will bring a solution to all these problems. But that is not the main reason why we should work for it. We should work for it because Allah (swt) has commanded us to work for it. What is your response to this?

You are saying you are not a scholar but are giving analysis on the very thing you are choosing to leave to scholars to analyze.

If you want to analyze something, just do it and don’t feel a need to mention you are not a scholar.

Your analysis has political underpinnings laced around some religious ideas.

I disagree with all the political underpinnings. There are antiquted post WWII type mindsets that are not applicable. Who said revolution is a good thing? We are not serfs in eastern Europe. We don’t need an industrial revolution or a rebellion from religious authorities. We are living in the 21st
century with major concerns being environment than per say political IMO.

Thx. Peace to all.

As-Salamu Alaikum.

It looks like what you are trying to do is to determine the feasibility of implementing the Islamic State in our day and age. But that is not the right approach. Once we have established that something is an obligation from Allah (swt) then we have to carry it out no matter what. The Prophet (saw) has told us that when we are commanded to do something then we should do it to the best of our ability. So Allah (swt) has commanded us to live under a Khliafah and He has also promised us that He will not place a burden upon us that is more than what we can bear. So we have to believe in Him and trust in Him and try our best. Imam Shafi said that there is no problem which this Ummah will face except that there is a solution for it in the Book of Allah (swt). So I am not a scholar and I do not have answers for all of your questions. But I am certain that if we as an Ummah believe in the promise of our Lord and do what He asks of us, even if it may seem difficult or impossible then He (swt) will open a way for us. He (swt) will give us solutions to our problems. We just have to trust in Him just like the mother of Musa (as) trusted in Allah and put her infant in the river. Anyone at that time would have called her insane for doing that but she had trust in her Lord. She trusted Him more than her own mind and the world around her. This is the station of a true believer one of complete submission.

This is how revolutions begin. This is how change begins. It begins with hope. It begins with trust in the Divine. If the Sahabah asked these kind of questions then Islam would never have left Madinah. How could 313 defeat 1000? Some would say that it is maddness, but those who see the world through the Divine Light know that with Him (swt) anything is possible.

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