Tahir Anwar – President Obama’s Cairo Speech and the Optimistic Ummah

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36 Responses to “ Tahir Anwar – President Obama’s Cairo Speech and the Optimistic Ummah ”

  1. taji nahl says:

    AS SALAAM ALAIKUM, in Islam we are taught not to be blind followers . we must not look at what is said by obama , we must look at his deeds. and so far he says one thing but does another. just one example is “obama’s war/ pakistan”. we should be optimistic because we are slaves of Allah, not due to rhetoric from obama.

  2. Taimur says:

    Salaam Aleikum,

    And Thus have We placed leaders in every town, its wicked men, to plot in it. They plot against themselves alone, but they are not aware of it. (Surat al-An’am: 123)

    Obama is just a puppet of the few that really control the world and they have only THREE enemies; Allah, the messenger and the believers. Brothers everything is being set up to make a serious war against Muslims, these are just strategic moves as in a chess game. Islam is being preached to us by the kufars????? Wake up muslims!

  3. nod says:

    A certain phrase coined by Malcolm X springs to mind.

  4. Imran says:

    Salam alaikum

    Prophet Muhammad(SAW)said near the hours approach the leader of the people would be the worst of them.

    Obama is no exception Malcolm X once said he prefered to have a republican in office then the democrat, why? He explained the Republican is like a Wolf and when a wolf is near one is ever alert and ready to respond to it. He then described the democrats as a Fox, because a fox is slick and smooth, you never know what hes thinking.

    Americas history is as such a wolf and fox game, republicans usually openly do dirty things to Muslims and minorities while the democrats do things behinds the scenes, sanctions, coos, revolutions etc

    America is hiding behind a new mask known as OBama, please do not be fooled, muslim killing will intensify in the next few years that is certain. Change can only come through the return of Islam the caliphate, and if Muslims stand the struggle must intensify.

  5. M says:

    Assalamu ‘Alaykum,

    Brothers and Sisters, this message is about optimism, and not necessarily believing that President Obama is some perfect savior. The shaykh is encouraging Muslims by pointing out current political trends.

    Shaykh Humza did the same thing when President Obama was running. Let’s not try to misinterpret the Shaykh’s message and assume we have the ultimate knowledge.

    American Muslims need this type of encouragement, because the reality is, most of us are too focused on turning our children into doctors, engineers, and lawyers. We need more intelligent Muslims to get involved in humanities, arts, politics, history, etc.

    No one knows the future, so we can either sit around and wait for the caliphate to return, or we can be optimistic and work with what we have been given by Allah swt.

    Unfortunately, we pick up a pamphlet or two on American History, or read Dr. Zinn and Dr. Chomsky and assume we know the best course of action.

    Like our scholars have mentioned, get out of pamphlet-based knowledge, and read those big books!

    Guidance and misguidance is from Allah alone, may Allah swt protect us.

    Wassalam

  6. SN says:

    Bismillah hir-Rahma nir-Raheem (In the name of Allah, the most Kind and the most Merciful)

    As-salamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),

    1) We must look at his deeds. and so far he says one thing but does another. just one example is “obama’s war/ pakistan”

    This is true. “Some” of his actions are different than his words. He hinted at the war with Pakistan before he became President (look at his comments on the gunmen situationin India from 2008).

    2) “Obama is just a puppet of the few that really control the world and they have only THREE enemies; Allah, the messenger and the believers. Brothers everything is being set up to make a serious war against Muslims, these are just strategic moves as in a chess game. Islam is being preached to us by the kufars????? Wake up muslims!”

    Please provide proof for this. If there was a sinister plan against Muslims, it would come out eventually. No reason to worry about it. Allah (swt) has protected the Muslims in America in so many ways. This sounds like a response to the “rights” dogmatic arguments that are generally not even accepted by the majority or the right RIGHT NOW. We can’t do anything about year 2000 and 2004. Heck, Obama couldn’t even do anything.

    3) America is hiding behind a new mask known as OBama, please do not be fooled, muslim killing will intensify in the next few years that is certain. Change can only come through the return of Islam the caliphate, and if Muslims stand the struggle must intensify.

    This description is like in #2. Not helpful. As human beings, we will always have problems with each other. Talk to people. Become their friends. The right and left have insecurities, and so do Muslims. Put those insecurities behind, and we will find a lot in common. We need to look beyond race, religion, color, and gender (Muslims included in this group).

    As Muslims, we believe in the 10 commandments. The problem is with the elected officials and how they get elected (money, bribes, etc). Defeat that, and we will have a voice once again. Think about why Allah (swt) made us without a voice. This is key. This is like taking water away from the thirsty person. We have our basic rights been pulled from us. I believe b/c we are just gratuitously fighting with each other and our world community.

    Imam Tahir is giving a message of hope. Listen to what he is saying. If you one disagrees with him on something, perhaps there is something we can agree on.

    I don’t know if I want a Caliphate b/c most probably some lying aristocratic, authoritarian with take rule with the Iron fist. Humans are all but the same for the most part. Why few good, gentle leaders have come in history. Most don’t rule properly. We need Iman and sincerity in our hearts before anything.

    Obama is not so bad, not so good. Give him a fair chance. He really has not done much yet, other than the bailout (Interest system) which from his perspective (capitalism), he had no other choice. He (what he knew and could do with his limited power), was only that, or 25% of the population could be out of work (including a lot of us)

    Peace. Love for All! Allah (swt) is great. Keep it real Imam Tahir in Cali!

  7. Taimur says:

    SN,
    I just happened to return to the page and saw your comment and I am quite shocked bu your statements. I do hope you are a Muslim and you do read the Qur’an.

    Never have the chiefs of the disbelievers been friends or allies to the Muslims. The Qur’an is a testament to this fact and is sufficient as proof. The disbelievers of old and their chiefs are no different than of today. The stories in the Qur’an are not for entertainment but for us to derive valuable lessons. This president is only a public figure for the real people that control the

    “I don’t know if I want a Caliphate b/c most probably some lying aristocratic, authoritarian with take rule with the Iron fist.”

    Are you serious? A caliphate is the only WAY. The laws of Allah must be adhered to not the laws created by man. This statement is probably derived by the tyrant oppressors that you see today in the puppet Muslim governments. A TRUE caliphate will be just and have no tolerance for oppressive leaders but embrace just leaders who will ensure that the laws of Allah NOT the law of the leader is followed. The puppet Muslim governments do adopt some form of Sharia but its bits and pieces mostly to serve their sinister purposes. I agree that what we have today in the Muslim lands are oppressive but that has been specifically made so to make Sharia detestable to human beings and indeed many Muslims; like you for example.

    There is no hope coming from a leader of the disbelievers and their man made system. If you have been swayed into thinking so, then I suggest you do some serious research or open the Book of Allah to open your eyes.

    If you are some agent for them, then keep doing your thing and we will do ours, but wait for the punishment of your Lord.

    Salaam Aleikum.

  8. SN says:

    Bismillah hir-Rahma nir-Raheem (In the name of Allah, the most Kind and the most Merciful)

    As-salamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),

    I hope all is well. It is a beautiful day to be alive and well. May Allah (swt) grant success to all of us in this world and the hereafter.

    Taimur, my brother, homey, dagg. I hope all is well.

    MashaAllah, I am Muslim and I read the Quran almost everyday (Hafs from Aasim).

    Concerning the Caliphate issue.

    Questions:

    Can you give me the name of one person who you you would want in charge of the Caliphate?

    What kind of electoral system would you use?

    Are electronic voting machines allowed?

    What company would you use to cast the electronic votes? Diebold?

    Are Internet votes allow?

    What is this leaders official position on environmental issues like factory farming, eating meat products everyday, etc?

    What madhab would this leader have the country follow? Which “certification” does he/she have in this matter?

    Will this leader be open for Aids, STD, genetic leaag

    What will be the this Caliphates status on women? Can women work, drive? What clothing will they wear and why?

    Does every Muslim have to move to this Caliphate? If they don’t what happens then?

    “A caliphate is the only WAY”? What is your understanding of a “Caliphate” or government? Please give me some links on the web etc for details.

    Kind Regards,
    -SN

  9. SN says:

    Will this leader be open for Aids, STD, genetic testing for himself?

  10. Dawood Rayan says:

    Assalamu alaikum

    I think Iman Anwar should stick to fiqh issues and leave the political comments to people who know what they are talking about. On this issue, the best is Shaykh Riyad Nadwi’s indept analysis of Obama’s psychology and politics, its spot on. That’s not to say that I am not fan of Imam Anwar’s Hajj video. I love it but I think with all due respect when it comes to politics there is more to it than meet the eye and we need experts in the field.

    -DR

  11. SN says:

    AsA DR,

    DR=disaster recovery.

    Funny stuff DR!

    “I think Iman Anwar should stick to fiqh issues and leave the political comments to people who know what they are talking about.”

    You are entitled to your opinion, even when you are wrong.

    :)

    mA. Keep it real brother. North Side Believers!

    Allah (swt) is great!

    SN

  12. SN says:

    East Side, West Side, North Side, South Side – please leave Imam Tahir alone.

    Generally speaking, political opinions are not 100%.

    It is not an exact science.

    Politics is not “black” and “white.”

    :)

    SN

  13. Dawood Rayan says:

    Ok, SN if you think I am talking nonsense then why don’t you spare some time to read the article I suggest. Its here: http://www.occri.org.uk/Articles/Obama-Aqsa.htm Read it, then come back to me, so that your will be able to post something more mature instead of “childish” play with letters as you did in your last post.

  14. Salma says:

    Salam, I agree with DR, Imaam Tahir is totally out of his depth when on these issues. He should not speak about politics. I am sorry but it came across as very naeive, especially after read what Sh Riyad Nadwi had to say about Obama. Yes politics is not black and white but in this instance, being black in the white house is what all the fuss is about. Obama is just doing what the people who put him there wants him to do i.e. give them Jerusalem and send more troops to kill more Muslims. You people need to wake up!

  15. SN says:

    Bismillah hir-Rahma nir-Raheem (In the name of Allah, the most Kind and the most Merciful)

    As-salamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),

    Please leave Imam Tahir alone.

    My main man Muhammad Yaqoubi once said “the obvious does not need to be spoken about.”

    1) My main man President Obama was hawkish on Pakistan before he got elected
    2) My main man President Obama wanted to start a war with Pakistan before he got elected

    When life gives you a lemon, make lemonade.

    Something funny in a narcissistic way.

    People like cockroaches being killed. You know I am right. Blame Allah (swt) for people (you won’t do that huh … mA).

    A certain amount of the human kind (the narcissistic ones and others), like to see people being tortured. It is a basic human condition. People love the heavy hand and torturing others. This has been going on since Allah (swt) created man.

    Muslims are like cockroaches. People like the torturing them. It is “kind” of “funny.”

    My advice. Don’t be a victim and victimize yourself or a cockroach. Be the shoe or the one holding the shoe to kill the cockroach (but don’t kill).

    Name me one Muslim leader in the world today we can guarantee that will hold the shoe (have the ability) and not kill the cockroach. Name me one leader that won’t take bribes (“scholars” included).

    My main man Muhammad Yaqoubi once said “I was like the shoe in from of my father.”

    Beautiful=be the shoe

    Allah (swt) is great!

    Don’t state the obvious.

    Play attention.

    Being self deprecating and humble.

    Keep is peaceful. Come on now Imam Tahir is not naive (when you hold the shoe in your hand, don’t use aggressive words, b/c aggressive words will be used to kill souls. One can kill the soul before one can kills a human being).

    Kind Regards,

    -SN

  16. SN says:

    I think Imam Tahir should make an iphone application about Umrah and Hajj.

    SN

  17. Abd Rahman says:

    As-Salamu Alaikum,

    Allah (swt) says “Give to the hypocrites the tidings that there is for them a painful torment. Those who take disbelievers for Auliya’ (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honour, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honour, power and glory.” [4:139-140]

    First of all where is Tahir Anwar’s evidence to say that the Ummah should be “optimistic”. Can you show me one ayah or hadith which says this?

    Second if you look at Obama’s speech you may find that he quoted Quran but the very core of his speech was against the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet (saw). He said in his speech “Given our interdependence, any world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will inevitably fail”. This was the core of his speech and it contradicts with what the Quran says. Allah (swt) clearly tells us in the Quran that He (swt)sent this Din so that it may be dominant over all other Dins (ways of life). And the Prophet (saw) said that the east and the west was shown to me and that the Authority of my Ummah would spread to every corner of it. So Islam was sent to dominate the world not just at a religious and spiritual level but also at a political and economic level. This is what Islam truly is. This is what many hypocrites in the Ummah do not want you to know. How then can we expect any good from the world leaders? Do you not think that they do not know what Islam really is? They know but they want to change our perception of it so that it is no longer a threat for them and it becomes compaitable with their way of life. And in order to do this they make beautiful speeches and they hire their puppets among the hypocrites to deceive the Ummah.

    Tahir says that as result of Obama’s speech we as Muslims will be respected. We do not need some kafir to give us respect. Allah (swt) honored us when He (swt) chose us to be Muslims.

    Wake up O Muslims, see that you are being tricked. This land is not your home. The Prophet (saw)only made Madinah as his home after it was an Islamic State and the Ansar allowed to be ruled by Allah (swt)’s Law. We should be working to make that into a reality, to restore the Khliafah. That is our true home. Our loyalty is only with Allah, the Messenger, and the believers.

    How can we give our alligence to a nation that is not only killing and exploiting the Muslims all over the world, but which also is based upon a foundation that is the exact opposite of our foundation. We believe that we were created only to serve Allah (swt) while they believe they were created to serve themselves. We beleive the purpose of life is His pleasure and they believe that the purpose is their pleasure. How can you reconcile between these? They are as different as night and day.

    Jazak Allah Khair.

  18. Abd Rahman says:

    SN if you are a Muslim then you have to accept that the Khliafah is the only acceptable form of government for us. This has been establised in the Quran in so many ayahs..

    Some of the verses of the Quran which establish the sovereignty of God are…

    “Do they then seek the legislation of (the Days of) Ignorance? And who is better in legislating than God for a people who have Faith.” [5:50]

    “And whoever rules not by what God has revealed, those are the wrongdoers.” [5:45]

    “The rule is only for God.” [12:40]

    “And He (God) allows none to share in his rule.” [18:26]

    How can you prefer living under the laws of man to living under the Law of the Divine?

    If you are a Muslim then you must accept this. Just like you accept that we must pray 5x a day and fast in Ramadan. It is the human who must submit to the Divine and not the other way around. When it comes to His Law we only listen and obey. We do not question. So just like you do not question the Salah or the fast you should not question the government that your Lord has chosen for you.

  19. SN says:

    Bismillah hir-Rahma nir-Raheem (In the name of Allah, the most Kind and the most Merciful)

    As-salamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),

    Mr. Abd Rahman. Kindly try to answer my questions below. I don’t understand why you are using some “if you are a Muslim” do such and such rhetoric? When did proving to you that I am a Muslim become part of the any discussion?

    There are some corny groups in the UK who are groups of represent these Khilafah ideas and are groups of “thoughtlessness.” I just want to make sure you don’t represent those groups.

    Questions:

    Can you give me the name of one person who you you would want in charge of the Caliphate?

    What kind of electoral system would you use?

    Are electronic voting machines allowed?

    What company would you use to cast the electronic votes? Diebold?

    Are Internet votes allow?

    What is this leaders official position on environmental issues like factory farming, eating meat products everyday, etc?

    What madhab would this leader have the country follow? Which “certification” does he/she have in this matter?

    Will this leader be open for Aids, STD, genetic leaag

    What will be the this Caliphates status on women? Can women work, drive? What clothing will they wear and why?

    Does every Muslim have to move to this Caliphate? If they don’t what happens then?

    “A caliphate is the only WAY”? What is your understanding of a “Caliphate” or government? Please give me some links on the web etc for details.

    SN

  20. SN says:

    Abd Rahman – this is such a silly comment. Where is your hadith/ayah for making comments that are gratuitous, attacking others and asking others if they are Muslim? Come on homz. Trix are for kids!

    First of all where is Tahir Anwar’s evidence to say that the Ummah should be “optimistic”. Can you show me one ayah or hadith which says this?

  21. SN says:

    Abd Rahman – this is such a silly comment. Where is your hadith/ayah for making comments that are gratuitous, attacking others and asking others if they are Muslim?

    First of all where is Tahir Anwar’s evidence to say that the Ummah should be “optimistic”. Can you show me one ayah or hadith which says this?

  22. SN says:

    Ok, SN if you think I am talking nonsense then why don’t you spare some time to read the article I suggest. Its here: http://www.occri.org.uk/Articles/Obama-Aqsa.htm Read it, then come back to me, so that your will be able to post something more mature instead of “childish” play with letters as you did in your last post.

    Why do people love to attack others? Many questions in life have different answers to the SAME question and all answers are “right.”

    No contradiction in being optimistic and not being naive.

    How come Muslims have lost nuanced speech and subtleties in their speech? I am a terrorism professor so I kind of know what is going on out there.

    These were my points below:

    1) My main man President Obama was hawkish on Pakistan before he got elected
    2) My main man President Obama wanted to start a war with Pakistan before he got elected

    Believe me, I kind of know what’s up.

    btw .. I have been attacked continuously for several months, so I like to use “play” of words tease you and make other laugh. If I am attacked, I will eventually at most “play” with words to tease you.

    If the Khilafah prince would answer my serious questions, we could have a reasonable discussion. It is very easy to attack others about their beliefs and not have much to show for your “plan” for Khilafah – or Arab nationality, iron fisted government. I have seen the Khilafah callers from certain groups. I have seen them fornicate, put down others and not have much planning for anything other than get into power. Sounds like right wing politics in American. :)

    C street in Washington DC can happen anywhere. Look up C Street for Ring Wing Politicians in American folks.

    SN

  23. SN says:

    Ok, SN if you think I am talking nonsense then why don’t you spare some time to read the article I suggest. Its here: http://www.occri.org.uk/Articles/Obama-Aqsa.htm Read it, then come back to me, so that your will be able to post something more mature instead of “childish” play with letters as you did in your last post.

    Why do people love to attack others? Many questions in life have different answers to the SAME question and all answers are “right.”

    No contradiction in being optimistic and not being naive.

    How come Muslims have lost nuanced speech and subtleties in their speech? I am a terrorism professor so I kind of know what is going on out there.

    These were my points below:

    1) My main man President Obama was hawkish on Pakistan before he got elected
    2) My main man President Obama wanted to start a war with Pakistan before he got elected

    Believe me, I kind of know what’s up.

    btw .. I have been attacked continuously for several months, so I like to use “play” of words tease you and make other laugh. If I am attacked, I will eventually at most “play” with words to tease you.

    If the Khilafah prince would answer my serious questions, we could have a reasonable discussion. It is very easy to attack others about their beliefs and not have much to show for your “plan” for Khilafah – or Arab nationality, iron fisted government. I have seen the Khilafah callers from certain groups. I have seen them fornicate, put down others and not have much planning for anything other than get into power. Sounds like right wing politics in America. :)

    C street in Washington DC can happen anywhere. Look up C Street for Ring Wing Politicians in America folks. Replace it with a Khilafah call and we are set.

    Stop hating people. I love America and many American. Do I agree with even Ring and Left wing politician – No. Most American do not agree with politicians. Stop hating. Spread some peace and love and stand up for yourself if a bully comes after you. Get an education and stop complaining.

    Is everyone telling me that Allah (swt) does not know there is massive fighting on Earth? Allah (swt) is allowing the massive fighting to occur folks! Therefore, Allah (swt) hates all of us? Nobody would go there correct. May Allah (swt) protect us from the devil.

    Before a gun fight, there is a fight with words. Choose your words appropriately and some neutral and positive words. Don’t be naive, stand up to a bully. Nothing wrong with that. Don’t get angry. Keep it real! Spread peace on Earth!

    SN

  24. Abd Rahman says:

    Bismillah.

    I apologize for anything offensive to you I might have said, such was not my intention. I did not mean to question your Islam or your sincerity.

    But at the same time I would ask that you not make any judgments about me as well. Do not assume that I am part of any group that you are talking about. I am not even from the UK.

    Insha Allah let us put groups and people on the side and focus only on ideas. The bottom line is that is it in an obligation in the Divine Law for us to live under a Khilafah or not. That is the bottom line. That is what it comes down to. I have quoted for you several ayahs that show how it is indeed an obligation. Once we have established this fact then there can be no furhter discussion. We should simply submit to what Allah (swt) has told us to do. What do you think?

    Salam.

  25. SN says:

    Bismillah hir-Rahma nir-Raheem (In the name of Allah, the most Kind and the most Merciful)

    As-salamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),

    mA apology accepted.

    You said: “I have quoted for you several ayahs that show how it is indeed an obligation.”

    Ok, it is an obligation.

    Please answer the below listed questions:

    Concerning the Khilafah, what does it mean to you?

    What form of government is it?

    What elected officials will there be?

    What will there be their religion?

    Can there be minority participation?

    How are minorities (specifically religious minorities such as shia, and non muslims) treated?

    Is there any name on the diplomatic scene in the world today is capable of being the leader? What are his/her qualification?

    What is the treatment of women by the Khilafah?

    What “culture” is the Khilafah going to adopt, if at all (chinese, indonesian, american, pakistani, arabic, etc)?

    Can you give me the name of one person who you you would want in charge of the Caliphate?

    What kind of electoral system would you use?

    Are electronic voting machines allowed?

    What company would you use to cast the electronic votes? Diebold?

    Are Internet votes allow?

    What is this leaders official position on environmental issues like factory farming, eating meat products everyday, etc?

    What madhab would this leader have the country follow? Which “certification” does he/she have in this matter?

    Will this leader be open for Aids, STD, genetic testing?

    What will be the this Caliphates status on women? Can women work, drive? What clothing will they wear and why?

    Does every Muslim have to move to this Caliphate? If they don’t what happens then?

    “A caliphate is the only WAY”? What is your understanding of a “Caliphate” or government? Please give me some links on the web etc for details.

    SN

  26. SN says:

    “But at the same time I would ask that you not make any judgments about me as well. Do not assume that I am part of any group that you are talking about. I am not even from the UK.”

    You are posing ideological questions that fit in exactly lining with certain groups in the UK and elsewhere. Kindly answers my questions in the last respond.

    I am trying to avoid knee jerk “Khilafah is an obligation” discussions for a variety of reasons including that fact that they typically go nowhere.

    SN

  27. Abdul Jaleel says:

    Assalamu Alaikum,
    Since the inception of the Islamic state in Madina, there were two groups of Muslims:- 1.Mu’min. 2. Munafiq. A true believer will not have questions when it comes to Quran.
    The other group is more worried about worldly life.
    As human we can not have definite idea, ‘what is going to happen tomorrow?’ But Allah SWT has given us the wisdom to look for the truth. So it is up to us to adhere to that.
    By the way i have a question to the professor of terrorism.
    Since I witnessed the falling of the twin towers,and the media manipulation, this question is bothering me.Who did the ‘attack’- “Nine eleven” ?
    thank you in advance.
    Abdul Jaleel

  28. Dawood Rayan says:

    Obama is changing his tune it seems the Oxford report is causing some people to think. It a pitty we Muslims are still squbbling among ouselves about khilafah!

    http://www.ummahpulse.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=526:preventing-radical-extremism-al-quds&catid=22:jumahpulses&Itemid=130

  29. Abd Rahman says:

    Bismillah.

    As-Salamu Alaikum.

    It looks like what you are trying to do is to determine the feasibility of implementing the Islamic State in our day and age. But that is not the right approach. Once we have established that something is an obligation from Allah (swt) then we have to carry it out no matter what. The Prophet (saw) has told us that when we are commanded to do something then we should do it to the best of our ability. So Allah (swt) has commanded us to live under a Khliafah and He has also promised us that He will not place a burden upon us that is more than what we can bear. So we have to believe in Him and trust in Him and try our best. Imam Shafi said that there is no problem which this Ummah will face except that there is a solution for it in the Book of Allah (swt). So I am not a scholar and I do not have answers for all of your questions. But I am certain that if we as an Ummah believe in the promise of our Lord and do what He asks of us, even if it may seem difficult or impossible then He (swt) will open a way for us. He (swt) will give us solutions to our problems. We just have to trust in Him just like the mother of Musa (as) trusted in Allah and put her infant in the river. Anyone at that time would have called her insane for doing that but she had trust in her Lord. She trusted Him more than her own mind and the world around her. This is the station of a true believer one of complete submission.

    This is how revolutions begin. This is how change begins. It begins with hope. It begins with trust in the Divine. If the Sahabah asked these kind of questions then Islam would never have left Madinah. How could 313 defeat 1000? Some would say that it is maddness, but those who see the world through the Divine Light know that with Him (swt) anything is possible.

  30. SN says:

    AsA in all due respect, I disagree with your analysis 100%.

    You are saying you are not a scholar but are giving analysis on the very thing you are choosing to leave to scholars to analyze.

    If you want to analyze something, just do it and don’t feel a need to mention you are not a scholar.

    Your analysis has political underpinnings laced around some religious ideas.

    I disagree with all the political underpinnings. There are antiquted post WWII type mindsets that are not applicable. Who said revolution is a good thing? We are not serfs in eastern Europe. We don’t need an industrial revolution or a rebellion from religious authorities. We are living in the 21st
    century with major concerns being environment than per say political IMO.

    Thx. Peace to all.

  31. Abd Rahman says:

    Bismillah.

    Brother you are still not coming to the basic question that I am posing to you. When Allah (swt) makes something as an obligation then is not a duty upon us to carry it out? It is as simple as that. Can you please answer that question for me? Do we not have an obligation to be obedient to our Creator and Sustainer? Is not the fact that Khilafah is an obligation enough of a reason for us to work for it.

    You say that we do not need a revolution. Does it not bother you that today despite all of our advancements in technology 25,000 people die every day only from hunger. They die while in other parts of the world food is wasted by the tons. Does it not bother you that most of the people in the world today live at or below the poverty line? Does it not bother you all the people who are dying and suffering from wars and preventable and treatable diseases?

    Moreover does it not bother that so many people are not worshiping Allah (swt). How many people today live in heedlessness of Him and they do not prostrate before Him? How can you love Him and be content in such a world? Yes the enviornment is a problem but these are bigger problems.

    The Khilafah will bring a solution to all these problems. But that is not the main reason why we should work for it. We should work for it because Allah (swt) has commanded us to work for it. What is your response to this?

  32. SN says:

    AsA. We can agree to disagree on the how portion of your question. Salam and peace.

  33. Abd Rahman says:

    Bismillah.

    What do you mean by the “how portion of your question”. You still have not answered my question. Is not the fact that Khilafah is an obligation in the Shairah enough of a reason for us to work for its restoration?

    If we can agree on this then how can we support so called “scholars” like Tahir Anwar who want to make us content living in a world of kufr and not work for the return of Islam? They want us to support the kufr leaders who are killing our brothers and preventing the return of this Din.

    It would be well worth your time my brother SN to listen to the series on the life of Abu Bakr (ra) by Imam Anwar Al-Awlaiki (now there is a true scholar who is not afraid to speak the truth and who is not a puppet and bootlicker of the kafir).

    In this series among other things Imam Awlaki (ra) explains the Khilafah and what a time of prosperity and goodness it was. Insha Allah it is here on this website.

  34. SN says:

    AsA – I fundamentally disagree with your approach and what you are saying.

    Perhaps, my disagreement with you will give you more vigor in your opinions, and if that is the case, and so be it.

    I am here to “win” this discussion.

    I am going to leave this forum by saying we can just agree to disagree.

    Peace and much love.

    SN

  35. SN says:

    Additionally, peace do not slander Shaikh Anwar Tahir.

    Kindly mind your manners Abd Rahman.

    Being cynical and/or sarcastic is not a pleasant behavior.

    SN

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