Zakir Naik – Was Jesus Really Crucified?
Part 1:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2294876665735364519
Part 2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5283623989368520963
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November 9th, 2007 at 6:39 am
Assalam.i saw lots of islamic orator but i feel Dr.zakir naik is the best lecturer as i observed in my 7 years continu observation in several lecturer of the world.By birth i am bangladeshi.I studied in india 4 year and hv oppertunity to enjoy his lacture.now i am studing in belgium.As we live in the science and technology era we hv to think and approches with the scientific was.in my concern Dr.zakir naiks lacture and question answer session mostly based on scentific system response as we need.HOPE INSHALLAH MUSLIM UMMAH WILL INCEREASE KNOWLEDGE TO OBSERVE DR.ZAKIR NAIKS LECTURE.
January 2nd, 2008 at 12:42 am
He’s a gr8 Islamic scholar of the present age.
May 24th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Last question debunked Dr. Zakir Naik’s argument. Why kill two birds with one stone in a specific friendly debate? Where does reasoning concerning resuscitation come in if Dr. Naik believes Jesus was not crucified?
June 7th, 2008 at 12:46 am
I am very grateful to Allah for Dr. Naik’s work. His lectures have motivated me to become a Muslim (I converted 3 months ago). Allah-willing I will meet Dr. Naik one day to personally thank him. I pray that someday I may have his ability to help others.
June 7th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I have just seen a Dr. Naik lecture for the first time. His lecture, rebuttal and answers are word for word that of the brilliant Ahmed Deedat (may Allah be pleased with him). I appreciate Dr. Naiks presentation of Deedats lectures however some reference and thanks to Sheik Deedat should be given. If anyone is interested in comparative religion look up Ahmed Deedat.
July 14th, 2008 at 8:30 am
the debate really opened my inner self on Islam. Dr. Naik, may allah extend his choicest blesslings upon you, your family, and all those who are with the dakwah.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
the pastor wasnt really using facts and verses from the bible to prove himself like Dr. Zakir Naik did.. how can anyone believe half the things he was saying then?
February 9th, 2009 at 2:38 am
i wish you can came in kenya.may allah give u more elmu
March 9th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Assalam I am a Bangladeshi, I want to give thanks to Dr. Zakir Naik. I think he the man playing a grate roll as Muslim have been doing the right. And also who think he is right either Muslim or Non-Muslim should help him to continuing jobs to bring the truth on the right place because this is right after death all of the man kind must be judge, therefore given heaven or hell by Allah. May Allah help him and wising a long life because this is absolutely needed. One think is that if thousands of Kamal are died nothing to be worried but one Zakir Naik…
May 10th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Asalam-o-alikum,
Dr.Zakir Naik is one of the greatest Muslim scholar of our time.He has a great memory and index in his mind and he is using it rightly.May Allah give him long life so that he will continue to give us knowledge about Islam.And I request all Muslims to personally read Quran and sahi hadidh in his mother tongue in order to understand the right message.
August 5th, 2009 at 3:30 am
hi everybody,
I am Bangladeshi from UAE .Really i am in worrried that if one Zakir Naik has gone how can we get otherone..We never want to loose him. We should alz inspire him especially his dynamic lecture based on sceintific..May ALLAH bless him ..really he is exception for his lecture , for his brave heart..We support him n alz with him to spread out ISLAM…We are eagarly waiting to recv. him min. one time visit in Bangladesh..May ALLAH live long him 100000000000000 yrs
October 17th, 2009 at 1:05 am
I wanna Cler proof that jesus PBUH didnt crusified
December 11th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
i want zakir neak all voedio
December 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
I live in Nigeria and i had opportunity to watch Dr Naik given lecture that inspired both muslims and non muslim like, he is a great man who Allah has bless so much so that people are benefiting from him. May Allah bless him and the entire muslim Ummah.
February 1st, 2010 at 5:03 am
Although our sins separate us from the holy God and His paradise, He sent a sinless One to intercede for us!
A Muslim believes that his choices on earth affect his entrance to either heaven or hell. A wise man once said, “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” (Mark 8:36). This wise man was Isa/Jesus.
No doubt Isa will be in paradise. But He warned that heaven wasn’t easily obtained. He said, “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves” (Matthew 7:13-15). The one way to paradise is not easy to find. Many people, deceived by false prophets, try to enter heaven the wrong way. Their end is hell.
If you doubt that you can make it to paradise, the Qur’an instructs you where to find out: “And if you are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto you, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before you. . .” (Surah 10:94).
Scripture (the Bible) tells us how we can be assured of paradise.
Can good works earn us a place in heaven?
A true Muslim is submitted to Allah. That means Allah controls all he thinks, acts, speaks. If a Muslim does something Allah would not do (such as lie, worry, covet), he is not fully surrendered to Allah. That is sin. Can good works make up for sin?
The Bible says, “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. . . . for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:20, 23).
God is just and will not let sin go unpunished—regardless of how well the Five Pillars are kept or how many good deeds are done. Even one sin is enough to merit hell fire (James 2:10). Since sin prevents our entrance to heaven, and God, being just, will not arbitrarily forgive sin, who will help us?
Can Muhammad intercede for us?
While some hadiths suggest that Muhammad may intercede for them, Muslims accept the Qur’an as their ultimate authority. It teaches that a mere man—even Muhammad—cannot mediate on behalf of sinful men (Surah 2:48; 6:51; 35:18).
Can Isa intercede for us?
A mediator to the holy God must be perfect himself. He must be no ordinary person. Thankfully, God sent the holy Jesus to intercede for sinful man: “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all” (1 Timothy 2:5-6a).
Many people witnessed Jesus Christ as a prophet, teacher, and miracle worker. They told “how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him. We are witnesses of all the things He did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They also put Him to death by hanging Him on a cross. God raised Him up on the third day and granted that He become visible, not to all the people, but to witnesses who were chosen beforehand by God, that is, to us who ate and drank with Him after He arose from the dead. And He ordered us to preach to the people, and solemnly to testify that this is the One who has been appointed by God as Judge of the living and the dead. Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins” (Acts 10:38-43).
All true prophets witness that Jesus is the only way sinners can be forgiven. Without Jesus as your Savior from sin, you will face Him as Judge with your sins exposed. Jesus says, “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins” (John 8:24).
You must turn from your sin and realize that you cannot earn paradise through good deeds. Believe that Jesus is the Savior sent from God to save you from the penalty and power of sin. If you refuse to follow Him, you must be separated from the holy God in hell.
Those who trust in Jesus—not merely knowing about Him but relying on Him for salvation, submitting to Him as Master, and loving Him as the greatest treasure—will be saved from sin and hell.
Jesus assures those who follow Him of heaven! “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes [on Me] has eternal life” (John 6:47).
February 1st, 2010 at 5:04 am
Can keeping the Five Pillars of Islam assure me of paradise?
Because God is just, He requires a payment for sin – regardless of how well the Five Pillars are kept.
Are you a faithful Muslim? If so, you truly believe in one Allah, Creator of the universe, and Muhammad, His prophet. After your death, you long to reach paradise, but how will you escape hell? “Ah!” you say, “My faithfulness in keeping the Five Pillars will outweigh my sins.” Five times a day you kneel towards Mecca. The creed (shahadah) often forms on your lips. To your mouth comes no bread or water during the daylight of Ramadan. You are saving up money for the pilgrimage to Mecca, while freely giving alms to the poor.
But still, you question, “Is it enough?” Your conscience convicts you of failing God’s standard of holiness. How could the holy God accept to paradise someone stained with even a little sin? God is a righteous Judge. Even on earth, a judge must punish sin. A judge can’t pardon someone who has stolen – just because the criminal claims to visit the mosque every Friday and fast during Ramadan. If sin goes unpunished, the law would be disregarded, and Allah would be dishonored.
God is just and will not let sin go unpunished – regardless of how well the Five Pillars are kept or how many good deeds are done. Heaven is for the perfect alone. Only one sin caused the first man’s downfall. This sin was not a “big sin” like adultery, murder, or blasphemy. By eating the forbidden fruit, Adam’s one disobedience brought the curse of sin on the world.
Shall we escape? We who have dishonored our parents, lied to our neighbors, or cheated our customers? We sin routinely by putting selfish interests ahead of loving God. Will we go to heaven with sin – even if we keep the Five Pillars?
If we were honest, we would admit that our rightful home is hell. We need Allah’s mercy. But how can Allah be both merciful and just? The Qur’an instructs you to turn to the Bible with such questions (Surah 10:94).
The Bible explains how God’s mercy fits with His justice: “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in [God’s] sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it – the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe.” (Injeel Sharif Romans 3:20-22).
Keeping the law cannot get us to heaven. Instead, the law reveals our sin. God’s justice requires death for sin, but His mercy provided a substitute – Jesus – to die for our sin.
Since Jesus/Isa was born by the power of the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, He didn’t inherit Adam’s sin nature. Jesus is called the second Adam (Al-Imran 3:59; 1 Corinthians 15:22). While Adam’s one disobedience brought the curse of sin on the world, Jesus’ perfect life brings the hope of paradise.
He died on the cross to pay the punishment of sin for those who believe in Him. God proved the sacrifice conquered sin by raising Jesus from the dead. He saves all who turn from sin and trust Jesus, not good works. Our sin triumphed over, we can have a relationship with God and go to heaven.
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law. . . . For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 3:23-31; 6:23).
To receive God’s free gift of eternal life, trust Jesus as your crucified Savior and follow Him as your resurrected Lord!
February 1st, 2010 at 5:05 am
True Christians are followers of Isa/Jesus. Since the Qur’an commended Isa, faithful Muslims should study Isa’s teachings and obey them (Surah 3:48-49; 5:46). What does the Qur’an say about Isa?
Allah sent Isa, supporting Him with the Holy Spirit (Surah 2:87)
Allah exalted Isa (Surah 2:253)
Isa was righteous and sinless (Surah 3:46; 6:85; 19:19)
Isa was raised from the dead (Surah 19:33-34)
Allah commanded Isa to establish a religion (Surah 42:13)
Isa ascended into heaven (Surah 4:157-158)
The Bible is Jesus’ Word
Isa’s teachings were recorded by His disciples in the Injeel (Gospel). Surah 5:111 states that the disciples were inspired by Allah to believe in Isa and His message. As Allah’s helpers (Surah 61:6, 14), Isa’s disciples would have accurately recorded His teaching.
The Qur’an instructs Muslims to uphold and obey both the Torah and the Gospels (Surah 5:44-48). Muhammad would not have given that instruction if the Gospels had been corrupted. Therefore, the copies of the Gospels in Muhammad’s time were trustworthy and accurate. There are copies of the Gospels that precede Muhammad’s time by 450 years. When comparing the most ancient copies, the copies from Muhammad’s time, and the copies dated after Muhammad’s time, all the copies of the Gospels are consistent in their testimony of Jesus and His teaching. No evidence can prove that the Gospels have been corrupted. Therefore, all of Jesus’ teachings are preserved accurately in the Bible.
Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection
Knowing the Gospels are true, what do they teach about Jesus? The Gospels record that Jesus foretold His life’s work: He said He would be crucified, killed, and raised from the dead (Matthew 20:19). The Gospels record this happening exactly as Jesus predicted (Matthew 27-28; Mark 15-16; Luke 23-24; John 19-21).
Why would the sinless Jesus allow Himself to be executed? He said that there is no greater love than to sacrifice your life for your friends (John 15:13). Why would God allow His prophet to be mistreated and killed? John 3:16 says that He loved us enough to send Jesus to be a sacrifice for us.
Jesus sacrificed for our sin
Why do we need Jesus to sacrifice His life for us? This is the key difference between Islam and Christianity. Islam teaches that Allah judges us based on whether our good deeds outweigh our bad deeds. Even if it were possible to outweigh bad deeds with good deeds, God is so holy that He will not allow anyone into heaven who has committed even a single sin (James 2:10). The holy God cannot allow anything short of perfection into heaven. We all belong apart from Him in hell.
God knew that we had all sinned and therefore could not enter heaven. God knew that the only way we could be forgiven was for our sin debt to be paid by a perfect One dying in our place. God knew that He alone could pay such an infinite price.
God’s plan to save us
Therefore, God sent His Son to be born of a virgin. Jesus is God’s Son – not that God had parental relations with Mary but in the sense of His relationship with God and deity (John 1:1, 14). Jesus Christ proved He was God’s Son by His sinless life, perfect message, death for sin, and resurrection from the dead.
What does Jesus Christ’s life and death mean for you? God offers salvation from sin to those who trust Jesus as their Savior from sin and Lord of life. Jesus declared, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father [God] except through me” (John 14:6).
Clearly, Jesus taught that He is the only way to God. Only by Jesus can we reach paradise. God will forgive our sins, help us live for Him, and give us eternal life. How can we reject such a precious gift? How can we turn our backs on God who loved us enough to sacrifice Himself for us?
Becoming a Christian
If you are unsure about the truth, say the following prayer to God: “Please, God, show me the truth. Help me discern and reject what is false. Point me to the correct way of salvation.” God will honor such a prayer.
If God is leading you to trust Jesus as your Savior and follow Him as Lord, ask God for the gift of salvation through Jesus. Here is an example of such a prayer: “God, I turn from loving my sin and trying to reach paradise through my own works. Thank You for sending Jesus to die on the cross for my sins and rise from the dead. I trust Jesus as my Savior. I love You, Lord, and submit myself to You. Amen!”
February 1st, 2010 at 5:07 am
Can keeping the Five Pillars of Islam assure me of paradise?
Because God is just, He requires a payment for sin – regardless of how well the Five Pillars are kept.
Are you a faithful Muslim? If so, you truly believe in one Allah, Creator of the universe, and Muhammad, His prophet. After your death, you long to reach paradise, but how will you escape hell? “Ah!” you say, “My faithfulness in keeping the Five Pillars will outweigh my sins.” Five times a day you kneel towards Mecca. The creed (shahadah) often forms on your lips. To your mouth comes no bread or water during the daylight of Ramadan. You are saving up money for the pilgrimage to Mecca, while freely giving alms to the poor.
But still, you question, “Is it enough?” Your conscience convicts you of failing God’s standard of holiness. How could the holy God accept to paradise someone stained with even a little sin? God is a righteous Judge. Even on earth, a judge must punish sin. A judge can’t pardon someone who has stolen – just because the criminal claims to visit the mosque every Friday and fast during Ramadan. If sin goes unpunished, the law would be disregarded, and Allah would be dishonored.
God is just and will not let sin go unpunished – regardless of how well the Five Pillars are kept or how many good deeds are done. Heaven is for the perfect alone. Only one sin caused the first man’s downfall. This sin was not a “big sin” like adultery, murder, or blasphemy. By eating the forbidden fruit, Adam’s one disobedience brought the curse of sin on the world.
Shall we escape? We who have dishonored our parents, lied to our neighbors, or cheated our customers? We sin routinely by putting selfish interests ahead of loving God. Will we go to heaven with sin – even if we keep the Five Pillars?
If we were honest, we would admit that our rightful home is hell. We need Allah’s mercy. But how can Allah be both merciful and just? The Qur’an instructs you to turn to the Bible with such questions (Surah 10:94).
The Bible explains how God’s mercy fits with His justice: “For by works of the law no human being will be justified in [God’s] sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it – the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe.” (Injeel Sharif Romans 3:20-22).
Keeping the law cannot get us to heaven. Instead, the law reveals our sin. God’s justice requires death for sin, but His mercy provided a substitute – Jesus – to die for our sin.
Since Jesus/Isa was born by the power of the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, He didn’t inherit Adam’s sin nature. Jesus is called the second Adam (Al-Imran 3:59; 1 Corinthians 15:22). While Adam’s one disobedience brought the curse of sin on the world, Jesus’ perfect life brings the hope of paradise.
He died on the cross to pay the punishment of sin for those who believe in Him. God proved the sacrifice conquered sin by raising Jesus from the dead. He saves all who turn from sin and trust Jesus, not good works. Our sin triumphed over, we can have a relationship with God and go to heaven.
“For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law. . . . For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 3:23-31; 6:23).
To receive God’s free gift of eternal life, trust Jesus as your crucified Savior and follow Him as your resurrected Lord!
February 1st, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Bob,
Did you even watch/listen to the lecture or are you spamming the comments?
March 14th, 2010 at 3:51 am
Jesus is the only one way, my friend. i dont spam, am not interested in that. Christ loves you and died for you. He lives again, and is coming back to judge us.
April 14th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Dear bob, Your lengthy comment based on this video seems to me very preudised and immature, I believe from the nature of your letter that you are a born christian like me born in a muslim family. I was not a practicing muslim but I did do some religious practices for social security. Dear bob fortunately I had the opportunity to watch the lectures of Hamza yousuf, khalid yasin, Abdu rahim green, Yousuf estes all are reverts from christianity, Thus I came to know what is the pure message.Alhamdulillah try to pursue truth then you will find it in the holy Qur-an. The only scripture that remains in its purity
May 15th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
any one can say anything about Muhammad ..the fact does not change that he had 12 wives…he had sex with a child…he is a murderer…..i mean would you Muslims allow your child to got a neighbor who has such qualities….i would not..and definitely no….forget about following him ..if he was living in this generation ..he would be in prison for rape.and murder…also i just have to look at Islamic nations to see how well islam has helped them…and if their islamic nations are so good ..why bother to migrate to western nations ..i do not understand…by the way this chap zakir naik makes me laugh a lot when he speaks..his answers are very funny….he uses science and religion for his own convenience… and the Muslim crowd says wow how intelligent..his IQ levels is the same of the uneducated Muslims….i hope you keep giving such sermons gives me a good laugh….
May 18th, 2010 at 3:43 am
if Allah is the ALL MERCIFUL, ALL POWERFUL creator of this world then who created evil..WHY CANT HE DO AWAY WITH PAIN ,SUFFERING N EVIL IF HE IS ALL POWERFUL…why Allah talks of burning in fire , cutting off limbs etc..how can any MERCIFUL GOD SPEAK OF SUCH GRUESOME PUNISHMENT…i would like to believe in an ALLAH WHO IS MERCIFUL n who does not sound like IDI AMIN
June 28th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Oh my christien brother and sisters, i dont care if u make ur own comment but why the insult? If u do not regard muhammad pbuh as a prophet why then ar u insulting him? Ur religion is onto you and ours onto us. Isulting means u people ar uncultured, atleast as a good christien let a good word proceed out of your mouth, no body is forcing you 2 accept islam. Please watch your mouth.
June 29th, 2010 at 5:19 am
I repeat , if GOD , ALLAH , JESUS is ALL POWERFUL,MERCIFUL & THE CREATOR OF THE WORLD , then why did he create EVIL..if he did not create evil,sin,suffering then who DID.if someone else created evil then why did the GREAT , GOOD & ALL POWERFUL GOD ALLOW EVIL 2 FLOURISH..OR not do away with it , or just wish it away..if MAN is a sinner..who created this sinner..n WHY..i was told god gave us free will n we humans sin n invite suffering upon ourselves…IF GOD IS ALL KNOWER then surely he wud surely know that man wud sin n still y did he give man free will..IF GOD is soo KIND n ALL POWERFUL then Y did he create us with a propensity for sin or evil…n even if he did then Y punish , condemn OR rather WHO should b punished.if GOD is the CAUSE OF ALL CAUSES , THE ALMIGHTY CREATOR ie to put it mathematically- even school kids studying set theory wud tell u — the sub set can hav only the properties of the whole set…so if we r created by god then we r kind of subsets n GOD THE GREAT=WHOLE SET…HOW CAN WE subsets sin WITHOUT THE WHOLESET BEING RESPONSIBLE.CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN..I WUD GREATLY APPRECIATE IF DR ZAKIR NAIK CUD EXPLAIN..this is a simple question which all of us probably think about but never dare 2 ask..this question has NOTHING to do wid “WHICH GOD IS TRUE N GREAT N ALLPOWERFUL …”
July 5th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Hiii
July 5th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
SARAS :
I am not some great scholar but will try with my limited knowledge to answer your questions.
Sometimes I also think that why did God created evil, why does God gives wealth to non-muslims and not to some muslims though both may work the same. I thought muslims should get more preferential treatment as they believe in Allah.
But not to forget that this life has been created as a test for humankind so if God was prejudiced in that Muslims got all the benefits i.e that they never got sick, always happy and well fed and non-muslims were starving and had miseries then it would be obvious on whos side God was and people would enmasse convert to Islam. And this life would not be a test.
In the same way God created Satan. You must be knowing that Satan was a very pious follower of Allah. But when Allah made ADAM, he declined to bow before Adam and so was banished from heaven. So he challenged Allah that he will led astray the human being that he has created and to give him the power to do so. So Allah granted him his wish and said that if his human being is devoted to him then he would not fall into his trap.
Also for your statement
“…IF GOD IS ALL KNOWER then surely he wud surely know that man wud sin n still y did he give man free will..”
Like I mentioned above this life is a test. So for a test free will was important. Angels do not have free wills but humans have. And if they want they can be better than angels or worse than a devil.
IF GOD is soo KIND n ALL POWERFUL then Y did he create us with a propensity for sin or evil…n even if he did then Y punish , condemn OR rather WHO should b punished.
There again, it was free will. Humans were given a choice. It is upto them to choose. Its like studying for an exam. To pass an exam you need to study. If you play games, enjoy and not study you wont pass. Most of the young kids would anytime prefer to play than study but if they want to pass then they have to study. And if they fail they are punished in the form that they are not promoted to the next class. So you cant blame the school for setting up the exam. It is a way of testing.
As for your question of subset I am really not familiar with the subset. I had studied it but I do not remember it properly to be able to comment.
ARAS Says:
May 18th, 2010 at 3:43 am
if Allah is the ALL MERCIFUL, ALL POWERFUL creator of this world then who created evil..WHY CANT HE DO AWAY WITH PAIN ,SUFFERING N EVIL IF HE IS ALL POWERFUL…why Allah talks of burning in fire , cutting off limbs etc..how can any MERCIFUL GOD SPEAK OF SUCH GRUESOME PUNISHMENT…i would like to believe in an ALLAH WHO IS MERCIFUL n who does not sound like IDI AMIN
My answer:
SARAS Allah is beneficient and merciful as well as just. You cant be one and not be the other. He is both merciful and just. So if someone has committed some crime then he needs to be punished.
For example Hitler is said to have killed a million Jews. If he believed in Jesus then he should be sent to Paradise without been sent to hell for his punishment. Would that be justice and do you agree with it?
If yes, then its a hypothetical question, tommorrow I may come and rob you and maybe kill your parents, will that be fine as then I will go into confession and ask for forgiveness.
We should understand that mercy and justice should go hand in hand.
Ultimately it is upto Allah if he wants then maybe he can allow us to go heaven without going to hell. It is upto him.
It is like getting grace marks in an exam. It is upto the teacher to be lenient.
Hope I answered some questions and am sure created a few
If I come back online I will try to answer and get some more understanding of Christianity.
Thank you
July 5th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
I am still very sad that Dr. Zakir Naik was not allowed to come to Canada for the Journey of Faith conference in July 2010. I don’t believe for one moment that Dr. Naik, with his intelligence would say the things the media quoted. I know of many people (myself included) who have high regards for him because he is intelligent and I don’t believe he would say things that are unislamic. He often says that killing one person is like killing the whole of humanity, so I don’t know where the misinterpretation came from. I think the authorities should have asked for clarification of what he said. They should have let him into the country and then hear what he had to say. There are usually some Non-Muslims in the audience. I was at the conference last year and he spoke and there were no problems. I think that it started with the UK barring him from that country. It is foolish for people to quote someone out of context of something he said over a decade ago. It will only make him even more popular because now more and more people will be going to You-Tube and Google, etc. to watch his videos. So in an ironic way, it is actually making him more popular. So maybe in the grand scheme of things, he will clear this up and will be able to come to Canada next year. At least, that is my wish.
July 20th, 2010 at 12:02 pm
i also believe that Dr Zair Naik is a very good but he has learnt everything he knows from SHEIKH AHMED DEEDAT, just check and see i thought zakir naik was good but now i have become a fan of sheikh ahmed deedat……
July 22nd, 2010 at 2:13 am
Hi .u hav not answered my question..my simple n logical question…if GOD IS GREAT,ALLPOWERFUL,ALLMERCIFUL,THEN WHY IS THERE EVIL ,SIN N SUFFERING IN THIS WORLD?..PLS DO NOT REPEAT THE SAME EXPLANATION OF free will etc ..I HAV ALREADY ANSWERED THAT…why did god giv us free will wen he being the ALLKNOWER ,knew very well that we wud sin..by mentioning set theory I did not refer 2 some complicated math theory…it simply means that u cannot create something that u do not possess or that which is beyond your contemplation or imagination…a subset cannot have properties or qualities which the set -mother or universal set does not have…a scientist who creates a robot can say- hey I created it in such a way that it can walk but luk my ROBOT CAN FLY ! (not v likely to happen but there is an element of chance) do u mean 2 say even GOD THE ALLMIGHTY , ALLKNOWER wud say-“ I created a perfect man n but oh no ! how cud he choose 2 sin…? (He created a “FRANKENSTEIN MONSTER “ ….?) n being JUST N ALL MERCYFUL I SHALL PUNISH HIM..? “…
n wat is that story abt GOD striking a deal –bargaining wid the DEVIL ? …n the devil getting his way …our poor ,ALLMIGHTY GOD sounds not so powerful n gives in to the devils wish …WHY..?..N WHO MADE THAT DEVIL …SOME OTHER creator WHO IS NOT SO GOOD…?reg TESTING MAN… u actually mean god –OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN- is so jobless that he spends his time ,evaluating ,judging n then punishing MAN …his creation…wat fun wud he get by doing so ..TIMEPASS ?why did he THE ALL GOOD ,PERFECT MERCIFUL GOD create imperfections…create man wid mistakes ? n then PUNISH..?punish whom ..whose mistake..?
reg that comment abt HITLER… hitler was a wicked ,CRUEL ,perverted human being …THERE CANNOT B TWO OPINIONS ABT THAT…whether anyone actually thinks that ALLAH OR CHRIST THINKS or SHOULD THINK DIFFERENTLY abt him does not make sense…
I wud like 2 add here something which is PRAISEWORTHY abt the followers of ISLAM….their religion is rather rigid ,harsh n CRUEL abt PUNISHMENTS etc but I am yet 2 come across a muslim who makes crude n derogatory remarks(they criticize n condemn but that’s ok I guess ) abt CHRIST or any other GODS …on the other hand I think even though CHRIST is the very embodiment, EPITOME of LOVE n PEACE n KINDNESS n forgiveness .. ,Christians use very bad n sad wrds abt the holy PROPHET n ALLAH … we puny human beings spend so much time n energy , fight wars n kill n maim people only to DEFEND OUR ALLMIGHTY , ALLMERCIFUL GODS IN HEAVEN…if only we cud b half as passionate or spend even half our energies in doing good to our fellow beings , this world wud hav been a better place to live in…sometimes i think…OUR GODS MUST BE LAUGHING…!
I WISH DR ZAKIR HUSSAIN ANSWERS MY QUESTION…am sure even he wud DEFEND GOD n say oh god gave us free will…WHY?.. don’t ask or because he is JUST n loves 2 punish because is ALLMERCIFULL…I wonder though why people don’t ask such questions…fear of eternal condemnation..?
August 23rd, 2010 at 2:59 am
All in vain talk by both the speakers of this respected communities. First of all jesus died a natural death and koran is the proof of it and it also confirms about jesus life post cruxification scenario. Now this two r taking people somewhere else from there it is no return (hell). If one read as saying from hadith and giving references and than he has to thoroughly check the koranic references also.
August 29th, 2010 at 5:39 am
Saras is a kafir who is just unwiling to accept anything we put forth. No matter whatever proof you put in front of him/her, he will blindly reject them all because he or she is not here to seek the truth but to blame and curse and cross question the religion of Islam. Allah has sealed his or her heart and this may be one of the reason for his or her denials to whatever we are saying. Its useless arguing or discussing with him, the best is ignorance. Ignore him/her and wait for him/her to burn in hell.